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September 24, 2008 · 8 Comments

My friend Olivia brought up a sore point the other day.  Actually, it was more of repressed feelings locked away in my R Kelly closet with no key in sight.  Nothing beats good ol’ fashioned denial.  You’re able to delude yourself from any truths, placating your own set of values and allowing you to weefully trudge along in life.  Ignorance is fucking bliss.

What exactly am I talking about?  I’m talking about the bullshit that is Chowhound.

For the longest time, I’ve considered Chowhound the most comprehensive, un-adultarated source of all things food.  And it is, but I’ve always had a bone to pick with them about their censoring practices.  Censoring in the first place, is gay.  Censoring message boards, is Clay Aiken gay.  Censoring a food message board is Lance Bass taking a dildo up the bung-hole gay.

But I continued to use CH, rationalizing to myself that it really never affected me, and I could always word shit to get around it.  Coincidentally, Olivia brought up this issue with me right around the time that I got a message from the CH moderators.

I had posted a response to a thread about New Yorkers visiting Toronto for food.  I had suggested, that the said guests check out a pal’s newly opened restaurant:

“…And also check out (shameless plug) a pal’s new resto Odd Fellow on Queen and Shaw. Its concept is very New York. Would be great if they could weigh in their two cents.

Apparently, that went against Chowhound rules, because I was promptly sent this emai:

“Hi goodcookiedrift, you’ve been sent the following by a Chowhound moderator:
We appreciated your disclosing your connection to your friend’s restaurant. And the moderators and I believe you are sincere in your praise for his place. But consider that if we let people post rave reviews for places run by friends and family, we’d be dead in the water. Imagine what would happen if mothers, wives, brothers, and fishing buddies were to come onto the site and post great big raving kisses for their friends’ operations.
There are plenty who do this and DON’T disclose their insider connections. We call them “shills”, and we bar the restaurant from further discussion on Chowhound (we’re pretty good at detecting them). This is very serious, and you certainly haven’t done anything remotely like that (thanks!).
But even disclosing your relationship, you aren’t an unbiased party and therefore we can’t trust your rave. And though we gauge you as sincere, our gauge is imperfect. Plus, we don’t have time or energy to separate the grandmas who truly think their little grandson’s new place is just peachy from the aunts who’ve invested 50K in their nephew’s steakhouse and post sterling testimonials because that frigging no-good bum better make a success this time. Or anything in between.
Really, it’s best if the opinions on Chowhound come from unbiased parties. That way our info’s better for all who make use of us in making dining decisions.
If you want to repost your great message without the reference to Odd Fellow, you’re more than welcome to.  A copy is below.”

Immediately I was WTF?  I did nothing to praise or slag the establishment, nor was I at all offering false pretense.  And the part about the aunt and grandmother made no fucking sense.  I didn’t rave about the restaurant, I simply said it was worth noting and opinions from native New Yorkers would be great.  Fired up, I responded with:

Just to clarify though, i didn’t rave about my friend’s restaurant.  I simply was suggesting in a very light tone, that it be checked out.  In fact, i did even preface it by stating that it was a shameless plug and I’d love to get a New Yorker’s POV on a restaurant that’s concept is based on very New York idea.Perhaps the wording was a bit unclear?

I’m hoping that open invitations to try new establishments aren’t being discouraged by Chowhound now?  As I do disagree with shilling, i think there is great value in simply letting the CH public know of new restaurants, in an unbiased manner – be it friend, family or even foe – and welcoming rants or raves.  It speaks to the very core of chowhound and why I (like many) frequent it.

To my disappointment CH never wrote me back (I love arguments).  Their gastro-pompous, cowardly asses took it on the chin (I suspect) and passively just sat behind their computer deleting any of my posts that even contained  the words “Odd” and “Fellow”.  Well listen up you dimwitted, coward of a fuck.  Thanks for not having the balls to defend your point but having enough gall to follow my posts and systematically delete them.  That’s a total bitch move – something a fat, sweaty, terrine smelling, biscotti finger cock-sucker who JO’s on stray cats does.

Fuck you Chowhound.

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8 responses so far ↓

  • Notorious P.I.G. // September 24, 2008 at 1:10 pm

    If I ever find the jag who moderates that board I will treat him to a seven course teeth tasting.

  • chenyip // September 24, 2008 at 1:19 pm

    I’ll cosign that!

  • Notorious P.I.G. // September 24, 2008 at 2:37 pm

    Also, commenting on that post is like pulling teeth. If you’re from New York and you’re visiting Toronto to eat, you have things ass backwards. The only time Toronto has anything to eat that NY doesn’t is if said couple from NY where too bitch to make it out of the upper east side. If you’re scared of going past 125th then my friends, Toronto is in abundance of food you’ve never even seen.

  • michelle // September 25, 2008 at 9:06 am

    i always told you that message board was gay.

  • ben // September 25, 2008 at 9:36 pm

    Honestly, I’d just repost the original, along with their letter to you and the subsequent emails directly on Chowhound. Then don’t bother with it anymore (they’ll probably ban you anyhow), I agree that review websites (which is basically what CH is, “discussion threads” are just a series of personal opinions) should practice banning shills, but it’s pretty sad when they email you to say that they know you aren’t one, but they’re censoring you on a technicality, I guess that opens the door for them to censor anything on the website they’d like. When you think of it way it leaves room for the argument that they can form and act on a bias any of their moderators *might* have against a certain restaurateur, chef or even server.

  • chenyip // September 26, 2008 at 9:37 am

    Which begs the question then, what’s the point of Chowhound in the first place? All reviews are biased irregardless of the relationship between reviewer and reviewee. And really, how harmful is it, to keep people abreast of new/old restaurants in spite of the relationship? Taste is as about as subjective as you can get. I wonder if they would ban posts of Colborne Lane if I had mentioned I’m acquaintances with Claudio.

    Chowhound boasts that they are an open forum and all opinions are welcome. What a crock of shit. Chowhound is basically the Sarah Palin of food boards censoring out posts that disagree with their own opinion pallets.

  • Notorious P.I.G. // September 26, 2008 at 5:43 pm

    There are also certain users who don’t get banned regardless of what they say which cheeses me to no end.

    It’s also weird because I posted a thread that was called:

    “Hey Chowhound Moderators, Go Fuck yourself”

    With the subject:

    Eat shit.

    And I’m still on there…

    Fuck that board.

  • ben // September 26, 2008 at 9:25 pm

    Eating food > Talking about food

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